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Unread postby navajojimmy » Fri May 31, 2013 4:03 pm

:point: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD

OK I am kind of PO'd
I bought a Pulsar 550R this year and am disappointed in the video quality and very very disappointed with it's built in recorder.
This device on paper looks to beat it out in spades!

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Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD
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Technical Specs
CCD resolution / sensitivity:    1280x960 / 0.03lux (day) / 0.003lux (night)
LCD:    0.24" TFT 320x240
Image Resolution:    Equivalent to 70lp/mm
Photo Resolution:    1.3MP (JPEG)
Video Resolution:    HD720p (1280x720) (AVI)
Signal Output:    PAL/NTSC
Memory:    SD card (up to 32GB)
Optical Magnification:    5x
Digital Zoom:    4x
Objective Lens:    f1.2/50mm
Field Of View:    6x4 degrees
Focusing Distance:    5m (16ft) to infinity
Recognition Distance:    250m (820ft)
Dimensions:    170mm/80mm/63mm (6.7"x3.1"x2.5")
Weight:    400g (14 Oz)
Power:    2x3V Lithium (CR123)
Operating Time:    5 hrs
Warranty:    1 year

USB and Video Cables
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I knew I should of waited :sad: .
Anyone want to try it out, please post your results. I have been depressed lately with the lack of innovative nv devices we can use...

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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD

Unread postby navajojimmy » Fri May 31, 2013 4:22 pm

The 0.003lux (night) maybe a little disappointing along with needing 2 CR123 batteries. Wonder if I could use 1 18650 battery. I just want something with a built-in video recorder that will record decently. The other pluses for this is power adapter and video out port. Of course the HD720p (1280x720) (AVI) files is what I am really thinking about.

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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby Jon Kelly » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:12 am

Hi Jim,

Attached is the manufacturer's spec sheet.

There appears to be some confusion online regarding the exact specs of this product.

I'm going to suggest that Amazon is correct in listing this as a CMOS-based scope, not CCD.

This will mean rolling shutter effects (wobble) in motion images where the camera is panning.

The digital zoom will be a lot of fun.

I've been testing the CMOS-based N-Vader and the push-button digital zoom is one of my favorite features on that scope.

I'll be writing a review about it soon.

For serious digital infrared sky observation I recommend considering the Yukon Ranger Pro or the more advanced Pulsar Recon X550 (both Sum Light-enabled).


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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby Scubasteve » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:18 pm

I hope someone buys one so we can all see its capabilities.

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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD

Unread postby Howtoufo » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:08 pm

navajojimmy wrote:The 0.003lux (night) maybe a little disappointing along with needing 2 CR123 batteries. Wonder if I could use 1 18650 battery. I just want something with a built-in video recorder that will record decently. The other pluses for this is power adapter and video out port. Of course the HD720p (1280x720) (AVI) files is what I am really thinking about.

Jim

Hey Navo,

Just purchased one and I must say it is very interesting device because you can actually record night vision in color! I am just posting a small test of likely satellite, awful night for skywatching , haze and ton of light pollution and the device did well. Not sure about the sensitivity as good as Yukon Ranger? I need to really do a few tests..the test video I just did from the video out to mini DVR to start then only the internal SD card , lot of noise but again I did not edit very much and I'm sure I could have denoise it with software I have on FCPX but for now pretty much straight from the SD card and mini dvr. You can film in color or BW, these stars were not viewable with naked eye so the device did well under circumstances..zoom is cool but gets really noisy, still better than none and on a brighter or larger subject, noise wouldn't be so bad. The IR is quite sensitive and I think it will give the Yukon Ranger competition and likely other digital night vision monoculars. It has video out ( analog signal) internal sd card in HD but no sound, no problem. More testing is needed but have a look, again awful night to test but still it did well, color is a fresh change and with those faint orange orbs, this will be perfect to show off the true colors!! http://youtu.be/vZ3hM1JhAvs
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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby ufoflicks » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:34 pm

Not bad, lots of details and very useful on screen info.
The anomalies observed at night are the same ones
observed in daylight, when then you will get the best
images of them: in daylight or at night?

Progress always have been made by proving the experts wrong.

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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby Howtoufo » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:47 pm

ufoflicks wrote:Not bad, lots of details and very useful on screen info.

Hey Jeremy

Jeremy right? Charles here !! Yeah I like the zoom option hand held and so light and small will fly nicely under my hex..so I think its a keeper for that purpose and quick run and shoot when I see an object which I do all the time and miss out when my camcorder can't record because object is too faint..once he skies clear up, I will give it a good run and compare to my Yukon...I like the Av out, internal sd card, also has USB connection which can really make a difference with recording on computer..so its worth the money and options better than the Igen., resolution probably as well just need a clear night!!
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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby navajojimmy » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:37 am

thumb_up_48 :trophy: WOW can't wait to get one myself. Look forward to any sky videos of yours while I wait for the money. Just hope the gov is in business this spring to give me my tax refund!



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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby Howtoufo » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:35 am

navajojimmy wrote:thumb_up_48 :trophy: WOW can't wait to get one myself. Look forward to any sky videos of yours while I wait for the money. Just hope the gov is in business this spring to give me my tax refund!



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Hi Jim,

Yeah just waiting for clear skies but did you check my test video of downtown Vancouver. Not bad considering I did little to no editing. Just so you know this monocular is CCD chip and has no wobble effect that I can see so far, so I don't know where the CMOS sensor rumour came from unless I am missing something. More tests needed to see if indeed will rival the Yukon but I am quite optimistic it will outperform all monoculars in its class because of all the available options. Stay tuned as once the skies open up and I actually have the opportunity to capture a UFO, I will do a full evaluation and demo.
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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby navajojimmy » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:16 am

Yes the 720 test. I checked it on your channel. Shows the stars very respectable. The colors amaze me. I think the unit will be a hit.


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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby Howtoufo » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:06 pm

navajojimmy wrote:Yes the 720 test. I checked it on your channel. Shows the stars very respectable. The colors amaze me. I think the unit will be a hit.


Jim :beer:

Hi Jim,

Thanks and yes you are correct and great to monitor the cool and warm stars , blue stars really jump out on screen, same goes with fainter objects , orange pink. Also I read Jon Kelly's email again and yes he is correct it is a CMOS system but even though the lag or jello effect is minimum and is not worse than sum light technology...they have the CCD version which is less expensive but no internal recording and image might be better, but I like the internal recording capability for run and shoot mode...Stay tuned I will do a proper evaluation when skies clear..
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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby Rondo » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:57 pm

So how would you get UFO Capture to record the HD video stream, or does it come with its own USB HD software?
The videos look awesome. So clear.
If you power from DC, do you still need the battery's, or are they just used for the clock and settings?
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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby navajojimmy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:21 pm

I am hoping we get 1280x720 resolution with the analog video output. If it does push that out then I think we can just use UfoCapture HD software and set the resolution to 1280x720. That is what I will be doing when it is stationary. Just have to get one first. :smile: Oh and we will need one of the latest i7 intel computers to keep up.



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:help:Recording from the Yukon Ranger RCA output
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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby omni13 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:32 am

Hi Jim,

I think an i5 should be just fine for streaming and encoding, check out the 3570 or 4th gen 4440 (or an unlocked K series for overclocking)- they are both quad cores and consume less power than the i7 counterparts. you wont notice the difference between an i7 and an avx capable i5. i believe the 4440 supports avx 2.0.

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Re: Luna Optics LN-DM50-HRSD High-Resoultion Digital NV

Unread postby Rondo » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:08 pm

To bad they are out of stock. Charles your video is posted on the Luna Optics Website.
In talking with Luna Optics they were expecting a shipment to come in mid November.
Still have not found any in stock. I think it has about twice as many pixels as the Yukon.
So wanted to see if the video out is better. Rondo
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